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G v desani

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:01 pm
by cobalt
how many have read desani here? what is your opinion of him and his books?

this thread is to discuss desani and his books. hope it elicits some response (that is if there are folks who have read him).

if this thread progresses, religion will be discussed also -- hinduism & buddhism -- for desani taught religion & (oriental) philosophy in univ. of texas, houston.

G v desani

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:20 pm
by Umang
I have not read this fellow. Okonomi mentioned him so I looked him up. Doesn't seem that impressive, a minor figure compared to Nirad Chaudhuri and V.S. Naipaul. Just another lost soul in India's encounter with the West. I generally dislike fiction so it's likely he would not appeal to me. I would be happy to be proved wrong though. If you have his e-books, please forward them to me. My search on Library Genesis was fruitless.

It's surprising how many of these "Indian writers" have fallen by the wayside. Nobody remembers Dom Moraes or Sasthi Brata anymore.

The most interesting book I have read recently is Ashay Naik's "Natural Enmity".

If you like fiction, you can try Kiran Nagarkar's "Cuckold".

G v desani

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:51 pm
by cobalt
Umang;655288I have not read this fellow. Okonomi mentioned him so I looked him up. Doesn't seem that impressive, a minor figure compared to Nirad Chaudhuri and V.S. Naipaul. Just another lost soul in India's encounter with the West.


yeah man, i know where you're coming from. he is actually a writer for writers, a bit like joyce. ordinary readers would find him inaccessible (as they would joyce). you can't compare him to chaudhuri or naipaul. the latter were mere mortals compared to desani. the world of art is a cruel world. it's not only subjective, it is also not at all meritocratic (though it carries a grand pretence of being so). luck plays a big role in art. i find many writers we are made to read in the literary canons established by colleges to be downright mediocre. but they were damn lucky in life -- thus they are venerated and figure in the canons. desani was plain unlucky in my opinion. however, he did not consider himself unlucky or failed for he counted elliot, burgess, orwell et al among his admirers and that's all that mattered to him! his arrogance also knew no bounds (god gives the power of realization that they have a gift to those that god gives a gift and with that realization come infinite arrogance). he was so arrogant that he approached kushwant singh (then an attache in UK in the indian consulate) to nominate him for the nobel because his novel was better than ulysses. of course, kushwant singh threw him out but desani had a point!


[quote]I generally dislike fiction so it's likely he would not appeal to me. I would be happy to be proved wrong though. If you have his e-books, please forward them to me. My search on Library Genesis was fruitless.[/quote]

there is some stuff of his online but i think they will be out of your reach (considering you don't like fiction). nevertheless, i will post one of his short stories here later -- one that is raucously funny and easily accessible to the ordinary reader.

[quote]It's surprising how many of these "Indian writers" have fallen by the wayside. Nobody remembers Dom Moraes or Sasthi Brata anymore.[/quote]

the writers are to blame. i don't like poetry but i know dom moraes led a bohemian life. he hardly wrote after his return from england. alcoholism stole his soul too. it is not that he had not been acknowledged for his genius in england (he was the youngest to win a prestigious prize, for poetry, in UK, in those days -- auden doted him) but what do you do when the poet decides not to write? sasthi brata too got lost in nyc (a bit like raj kiran of bollywood). he was "still" working on his novel, lol, the last i heard of him and which was a few years ago! wonder how long will it take for him to finish it? a lifetime is not enough?

[quote]The most interesting book I have read recently is Ashay Naik's "Natural Enmity".[/quote]

i'll be honest. i've hardly read much fiction since i left school (26 years ago). so i can yak non stop about oldies like nirad, naipaul, rushdie, brata, seth but know zilch about the new breed. i turned my back on fiction and writing and art in my last semester in college. i do revisit it sometimes (like i am doing now i guess).

[quote]If you like fiction, you can try Kiran Nagarkar's "Cuckold".[/quote]

i will. i am putting it in queue. topmost in the queue is kiran desai (heard lots of good things about her including the rumour that she is dating orhan pamuk). second is kiran nagarkar.

G v desani

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 12:42 am
by JuhuBeach
cobalt;655286how many have read desani here? what is your opinion of him and his books?

this thread is to discuss desani and his books. hope it elicits some response (that is if there are folks who have read him).

if this thread progresses, religion will be discussed also -- hinduism & buddhism -- for desani taught religion & (oriental) philosophy in univ. of texas, houston.


I am a true believer of professor Desani. On discover or Mind channels, I had seen long ago, his these interviews. He is unmatchable in his books that he writes.

" the very special, generous gesture of converting and sharing these two excellent G.V. Desani interviews. The interviews were recorded at UT Austin in July, 1989 when Desani was just turning 80. The thoughtful, gentle questioning allowed Desani to reprise many of the stories and themes he made in his classes, lectures and personal conversations. It also illustrates beautifully Desani's storytelling style of speech. "

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G v desani

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 6:45 am
by cobalt
JuhuBeach;655291I am a true believer of professor Desani.


i love you! will you marry me?

[quote]On discover or Mind channels, I had seen long ago, his these interviews. He is unmatchable in his books that he writes.

" the very special, generous gesture of converting and sharing these two excellent G.V. Desani interviews. The interviews were recorded at UT Austin in July, 1989 when Desani was just turning 80. The thoughtful, gentle questioning allowed Desani to reprise many of the stories and themes he made in his classes, lectures and personal conversations. It also illustrates beautifully Desani's storytelling style of speech. "[/quote]yes, i chanced upon these vids only last week and i can't explain the sense of excitement i was filled with -- it took me a full ten minutes to control my excitement, hyper sense of arousal and racing thoughts before i could begin to watch the video (i needed a placid mind to follow the video). i was seeing desani animated for the first time in life! i had thought i'd never get the opportunity (he was very media shy and i've seen only 2 photos of him so far).

tell me friend -- this nadi episode; i can't make up my mind as to whether he was mad or indeed he had a divine experience? i find it hard to believe he was mad for were that the conclusion, i'd die an unhappy, unsettled man. i have posed the same question to amardeep singh of lehigh university, who is an expert on desani (there are others too - i know - but amardeep is more accessible). he has promised to watch the vids and get back to me. i'll let you know.

meanwhile, let's discuss AaHH and collected short stories. what feelings do the books stir in you?

G v desani

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:19 am
by cobalt
here's a sampler from desani's collected short stories. although the style of this story is same as that of AaHH, it is the only story in the collection that shares AaHH's style. it is also an easy read.

http://imgur.com/c1tJSVY
http://imgur.com/bppqi41
http://imgur.com/hbOBGjF
http://imgur.com/zCNFdGB
http://imgur.com/nNiQ9Kl
http://imgur.com/Yk6mdxI
http://imgur.com/c3DKfRq
http://imgur.com/Md3h4Zk
http://imgur.com/ZgrEL9E
http://imgur.com/mj09b9b

edit. ignore the img of my son as a baby -- that was a test image and i don't know how to delete it. can someone teach me how to post images here?

G v desani

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:38 am
by okonomi
That Kipling verse analysis ain't a cup-of-tea for everyvone.
However, you have demonstrated how the preface to a book or a story, like Anthony Burgess' for AAHH, can go on to discourage everyone from reading it.

G v desani

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:49 pm
by cobalt
okonomi;655369That Kipling verse analysis ain't a cup-of-tea for everyvone.
However, you have demonstrated how the preface to a book or a story, like Anthony Burgess' for AAHH, can go on to discourage everyone from reading it.


that is quite profound okonomi. i have to agree with you a hundred percent here. i think the burgess preface did the book more harm than good inasmuch as intimidating readers is concerned. what's ironical is that burgess' intent was to make the "white brit." reader more comfortable with the book, but, he managed to, in the process, intimidate the entire human species.

i'll go over read your blog now and comment therein or private if that isn't possible.

okonomi nothing is anonymous anymore in the world. anonymity is only in your head. you may choose to disbelieve me but i dislike your choice to continue to remain anonymous because i really like the content of what you post. tell me, have you never nurtured a wish to see the face of the author whose book you have liked? ok, a bit far fetched an analogy, but still... i did promise i wouldn't stalk you? (am i stalking you already? hmmm i think i am -- not sure)

G v desani

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:05 am
by okonomi
cobalt;655503that is quite profound okonomi. i have to agree with you a hundred percent here. i think the burgess preface did the book more harm than good inasmuch as intimidating readers is concerned. what's ironical is that burgess' intent was to make the "white brit." reader more comfortable with the book, but, he managed to, in the process, intimidate the entire human species.

okonomi nothing is anonymous anymore in the world. anonymity is only in your head. you may choose to disbelieve me but i dislike your choice to continue to remain anonymous because i really like the content of what you post. tell me, have you never nurtured a wish to see the face of the author whose book you have liked? ok, a bit far fetched an analogy, but still... i did promise i wouldn't stalk you? (am i stalking you already? hmmm i think i am -- not sure)

Anthony Burgess had also written a preface to a book on TEA, [QUOTE] Originally Posted by okonomi ...ain't a cup-of-tea for everyvone.that might cause people to lay off their daily chai.

I am happy to pay attention to content, and not the poster. Follow the resolve of Hatterr at the end of AAHH, and do whatever that appeals to you.

Stick around and enjoy the regular writers.

Added later: Here is a post where a member wishes not to write like okonomi. :wink

G v desani

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:49 am
by cobalt
okonomi;655519Anthony Burgess had also written a preface to a book on TEA, that might cause people to lay off their daily chai.

I am happy to pay attention to content, and not the poster. Follow the resolve of Hatterr at the end of AAHH, and do whatever that appeals to you.

Stick around and enjoy the regular writers.

Added later: Here is a post where a member wishes not to write like okonomi. :wink


hahahahahah, you crack me up!

you leave me with no choice but to e-stalk you now. let me see. i suspect that like desani you too will disappoint me (insofar as revealing details about your identity and personal life are concerned).